Announcer 0:01
From Los Angeles, this is the Echelon Radio Network.

Brian Hemsworth 0:12
Hi, everybody, it’s Brian Hemsworth. And we are here with the Echelon Radio Podcast. And today we have Rosanna Savone.

Rosanna Savone 0:21
Hi.

Brian Hemsworth 0:22
So glad you’re here.

Rosanna Savone 0:23
Thank you for having me.

Brian Hemsworth 0:24
You and I have only spoken a little bit. So this is going to be very fun for me because I’ve done a little bit of research on you and some of your background. So if you’re okay with it, let’s just jump right in.

Rosanna Savone 0:34
I’m okay with it. Let’s do it.

Brian Hemsworth 0:36
Tell me about your practice. Let’s let’s start with where you are right now. And then I’m gonna go sort of backwards and see how you got there. So tell me a bit about your practice right now.

Rosanna Savone 0:47
Okay, well, I am the founder and Attorney at Savone Law. We are a business and estate planning law firm that focuses on business owners and their families. I also offer my services as outside general counsel to business owners who generate about a million or more of gross annual revenue. And I purposely founded my law firm, to be intentionally different than what most law firms are. Because I do come from a background of being general counsel. So I dealt with a lot of different lawyers and lots of different law firms. And I just saw what worked for business owners, and what really didn’t. So I offer all my like services with very upfront transparent flat fee packages.

Brian Hemsworth 1:48
Nice. Okay, yeah, really easy on the business owner that maybe has that growing business, they may not have as much experience with bigger firms with big retainers a lot of billing going on. So if I’m understanding it, and this is something that I found very interesting, in doing research on your practice, small business or a lot of small business and estate planning.

Rosanna Savone 2:14
Yeah.

Brian Hemsworth 2:14
And are you weaving those together? In other words, are you counseling these business owners in some of their business affairs, as well as the protection of the assets that are flowing through the business to the family?

Rosanna Savone 2:26
Yes.

Brian Hemsworth 2:27
Got it?

Rosanna Savone 2:28
Yes, I think the two subjects, or the two areas of law actually should be married, they make a perfect couple. You know, because if you’re just forming corporate entities, that’s, you know, obviously limit limited liability protection. But, you know, your client is still exposed when they don’t have their assets and trust. And I actually, you know, my previous, you know, job as VP and General Counsel for a family business, that was a small film production company, it was inherited by the widow of the original, independent producer of the film library. You know, I just saw how kind of I don’t know how, for lack of better terms, bad trust, writing didn’t really do the company justice. And it actually hampered us in many ways. So that’s what that’s what kind of inspired me to move on and open my own firm.

Brian Hemsworth 3:36
You know, I think for a lot of us that have started companies, and those of us that maybe started companies when we were younger. And we really didn’t know much, at least we didn’t know much other than the work we were doing. But we didn’t know much about running businesses. And even if you go to school, and you get business degrees, it doesn’t always really teach you smaller startup business. And that idea of, you know, I’m just thinking back to the accountant and the attorney when we incorporated, and then at some point, talking to an estate planner, not because we were looking for the state plan, but we were looking to administrate because of a death in the family, and then kind of going, Oh, crap, I think we need to do this too. But I remember if I go back 30 years, it felt so disjointed. I felt like this was one call on one thing and one thing, and I agree with you, now, 30 years later, to me, they’re very much intertwined. Is that a challenge for you to get that message out because most law firms are not set up that way. Business Affairs is down there. Injury is down that hall. Estate planning is down another hall so that we’re not sort of those of us that have worked with law firms. We don’t usually see that pairing up quite that same way or your clients getting it?

Rosanna Savone 5:01
Well, I, I definitely set up my law firm also intentionally different in the sense that I approach things with a very educational approach. And that it helps to have flat fees when you do that, because people aren’t wondering like, Oh, my God, how much is this costing me while she’s explaining all this to me, just tell me what to do. I really want people to understand and make empowered decisions. So it it is, you know, I do sometimes feel like I’m swimming upstream, because everybody else isn’t doing this, you know, so the, the population isn’t used to this. Yeah, they’re kind of used to doing businesses. It’s always been done with, you know, law firms. And, but when I, for instance, I just had a client yesterday. You know, he’s really excited. So that’s the thing with business owners, my business owners are always excited to get moving, they want to do things, where’s my estate planning, clients want to kick that can into the future and put it off, and there’s never a good time. But the truth is, the best time for estate planning is now because it can definitely be too late to plan but never too early. And so that’s, that is a difficult thing, because nobody really wants to face that fact about life. But the thing is, is, for instance, with this business owner, like he was ready to move, and we did a business plan from the very beginning, and how we were going to situate his businesses for, you know, maximize tax efficiency, maximize asset protection, but then I’m like, do you have an estate plan? Like what’s going on? Do you have a trust for your personal life, and now and he’s got, he already has another successful business, he already has, you know, he’s family’s got a 12 year old, he’s got a home. So he’s completely exposed in that way. But he had absolutely no idea how. So I, and he wanted to kick the can and keep pushing, you know, the appointment, you know, the planning session, it gets started on that, and I just have to give them real talk into

Brian Hemsworth 7:09
And that’s where education has really got to come in. Because a lot of a lot of those entrepreneurs just don’t know. In other words, they’re, you know, I’ve always seen, or I’ve so often seen entrepreneurs that are great at making a better widget, a better mousetrap, and they make money, but they don’t necessarily know where to go with that. So when you when you talk about things like estate planning, or kicking the can down the road, I think we also see when a lot of us early on, take whatever work we can get, and then the work starts getting better, the money’s coming in a little bit better. And then we make those decisions. Should I move some of this cash somewhere? Should I put it back into the company? What are the different aspects to this? Do I want to show more money in my account now? Or do I want the company to look better? Am I going to exit this company, I’m gonna sell this company. And a lot of us don’t really think a lot about that. So to me that education would be really a smart thing for a lot of those clients of yours,

Rosanna Savone 8:10
I do bring up a lot of those things, just getting the vision of where they see this company, because I really believe that you should be making decisions based on where you want to go and not where you’re necessarily at at the moment. You know, think big if that’s where you want to be. But you know, it, it’s again, it’s kind of it’s not always the way it is because everyone’s got kind of worried about what what they gotta get done today, which I understand. I mean, I’m, I’m human, I’m in business owner to get it. But just having them have that thought process, because a lot of businesses can actually really be a lot more valuable. If they think about that beforehand. A lot of people end up working and building like this amazing business. And then you just realize, like, well, there’s no infrastructure here for you to sell it. Like if you leave this business is now worthless, like and then of course, there’s different types of businesses like professional lifestyle businesses, which is what it’s meant to do that’s just there. And then when, when they go, the business is meant to fold, but they often don’t think about, well, what happens to that income to your family? Like how do we plan this that it’s not going to be a sudden shock? Yeah, their system. So that’s why with me, I really look at myself as a trusted adviser. Another great thing about doing flat fees is that it really does open communication, and helps me develop a relationship and really understand like, the uniqueness of who they are who their businesses, you know, is about what what they want, who their family members are, anticipate anything planned for it. And also just like, you know, they get through holistically in a way that they don’t because I’m A lawyer and they’re not Yeah. Does that make sense? Yep.

Brian Hemsworth 10:02
Yep. So so let’s have fun with this for just a moment. You mentioned working for a family, Film Library and a business. So if I say to you, these two words, I want to hear what your reaction is: The Blob.

Rosanna Savone 10:18
Do you know who The Blob is? Or what The Blob is? Or have you ever watched?

Brian Hemsworth 10:22
I know of The Blob. I do know of the blob. I was very intrigued to see that on your CV.

Rosanna Savone 10:27
Well, I freed The Blob

Brian Hemsworth 10:29
Oh, you freed the blob.

Rosanna Savone 10:30
I did,

Brian Hemsworth 10:31
Oh my goodness.

Rosanna Savone 10:31
The blog was really mired down in a really bad licensing deal for almost 12 years when I came on board. Yeah, the independent producer. He still owned the rights, which is really unusual these days, right. But he was very much savvy and the way that he made sure that he got he always got the rights back. And but unfortunately, you know, he was really elderly. And these guys were really savvy. And they were just, you know, taking advantage of a situation. Yeah. And when he passed away, I came on board to help his his widow, and support her and figuring out what’s going on, because she definitely knew something was arrived. And so, you know, I used I used my legal background, basically, to gather evidence. And, you know, we figured out that they were getting sued. And a class action lawsuit because they were running a Ponzi scheme and using the blob as bait. And then they on top of it sued us, when we didn’t renew the option, they had the audacity. And that’s what I tell people, it’s like, you could be doing everything right, and you can still get sued by bad people.

Brian Hemsworth 11:56
Yeah.

Rosanna Savone 11:56
So you have to protect yourself from that.

Brian Hemsworth 11:59
Well, and that area, in particular, because there’s always been value in things like film work, music. I did a brief stint as the head of marketing at the Hollywood Reporter. And in a very short period of time, because it would often come in as news. There were constantly stories that were very similar to what you just spoke of somebody who had unknowingly been taken, advantage of lawsuits that come up, fighting over the rights, that people that most of us would say should be the legitimate owners, one way or another don’t become it. So to me, that’s a very interesting way of again, your your, you may or may not be doing the estate planning right when all the other stuff is happening. But but you have an eye on where you think it should go, and what is best for that client. That’s where I really like that mixing of business with estate planning. Because it’s not just when. It’s when, but where do we want to go with this?

Rosanna Savone 13:01
Yeah, cuz this is the legacy. This was Jack Harris’s legacy, you know, and it deserves to be with his family was his risk that, you know, his Moxie that made that movie. And it wasn’t right what these guys were doing. And you know, and I often get underestimated. I don’t know why I will leave that up to the imagination at the moment, but I’m okay with that. I just say, oh, I’ll just, you know, I’ll play with my cards close to my chest. And so, you know, I went to the University of Michigan Law School, it’s a great law school, there’s a great alumni network out here, I was able to get a great litigator, and I basically handed over all the evidence that he needed to do the best he could do on a silver platter for him. And so what original estimates where it was going to take two to three years in court to clear the IP, maybe 250 $350,000. We weren’t able to get them to drop, you know, right at the motion of summary judgment right before the hearing, and it costs the company 25,000 instead, and then the IP was cleared for the very first time in 12 years, and there was no clouds. And I mean, they actually was a blessing. They sued us, because we really could say no, it’s ours. And so then, the other way I’m different is I didn’t do big law firm outside of law school. I did big talent agency. I went to go work at the William Morris Agency to do this affairs and TV lit assistant. And so I learned the business there. And and so I still have contacts there and was able to get representation. And now the deal actually just closed in January with Warner Brothers with an amazing producer attached. David Goyer and amazing director David Bruckner who just did the remake of Hellraiser on Hulu.

Brian Hemsworth 15:03
Oh my.

Rosanna Savone 15:04
Yeah, so the blob is back.

Brian Hemsworth 15:05
Oh, how fun. That’s so fun. Yes. We got a little bit of a little advance on that here.

Rosanna Savone 15:12
Yes.

Brian Hemsworth 15:13
So, law school in Michigan. Did you grow up in Michigan?

Rosanna Savone 15:18
I did. Originally I did. I moved right before my 16th birthday though to Arizona.

Brian Hemsworth 15:23
So we’re in Michigan were you?

Rosanna Savone 15:26
I grew up in a suburb of Michigan. Your Dearborn people seem to know where Dearborn is more

Brian Hemsworth 15:31
car territory.

Rosanna Savone 15:32
Yeah, yes. My dad worked for Ford. My parents are both immigrants from Italy.

Brian Hemsworth 15:38
Oh, my.

Rosanna Savone 15:39
Yeah.

Brian Hemsworth 15:39
Okay.

Rosanna Savone 15:40
So total American dream, that

kind of story. And you said that they moved you when you were in high school?

Yes, they moved to Arizona. My dad just felt better in the dry heat. So they went on vacation in the middle of July and bought a house.

Brian Hemsworth 15:50
In the middle of July and still bought a house. Oh, my goodness.

Rosanna Savone 15:57
So it was a shock to my system.

Brian Hemsworth 16:00
I was gonna say your father liked that. How did you like it when you moved? In high school?

Rosanna Savone 16:05
I’m in high school, I was very upset. It took me about a year to forgive them. And then by the time I went away to the University of Arizona, I started to realize that the that it actually helped me develop skills. Because I was just I had to meet everyone. This was before Facebook. I mean, you can’t see how old I am. But there was no Facebook. I was in high school. So, you know, it was hard to you know, I had to really make all new friends. And you know, people had to write me letters and call me with very expensive, long distance phone calls to keep in touch back.

Brian Hemsworth 16:44
So did your family moved to Tucson?

Rosanna Savone 16:48
No, they moved to Phoenix and they’re in Scottsdale now then

Brian Hemsworth 16:52
you applied to go to the

Rosanna Savone 16:54
University of Arizona

Brian Hemsworth 16:55
in Tucson?

Rosanna Savone 16:56
Yes.

Brian Hemsworth 16:56
So that was a move for you.

Rosanna Savone 16:58
Yes,

Brian Hemsworth 16:59
Then I moved again.

Rosanna Savone 17:00
So also going away to college was a lot easier for me, because I’d already moved. I was gonna say you’d kind of been through yeah, by the end of the week, I knew the whole dorm. I just went around knocking on doors, I had that like Michigan friendliness with that ability to like break out of my shell. And just, which is why I do like doing things the way I like to do them. I really like to get to know people and hear their story.

Brian Hemsworth 17:26
So when when did the law bug bite?

Rosanna Savone 17:28
When I was 14,

Brian Hemsworth 17:30
really than young?

Rosanna Savone 17:31
Yeah, I knew I wanted to be a lawyer. Although, frankly, I, the I wasn’t sure I wanted to practice law once I went to law school because I don’t like the way law firms run their businesses. And I didn’t like that grind, which is one of the reasons why I was motivated to go more in a business direction by going to William Morris, instead of a big law firm. But I always had my finger on the pulse. And after I stayed home with my son for a little while and went back in.

Brian Hemsworth 18:05
Gotcha. I you know, I, I’d say that when I was 14. And I’m going to sort of date myself here by what I’m about to say. But I thought of every lawyer as being probably Perry Mason, because that’s who my parents watch, or maybe LA law. But I didn’t really have a good feel for the vast majority of attorneys that I’ve worked in the last 20 or 30 years, it’s been mostly transactional. Thank goodness, you know, that we don’t have. I haven’t been exposed to a lot of criminal law. But

Rosanna Savone 18:39
Or civil litigation

Brian Hemsworth 18:40
or civil litigation.

Rosanna Savone 18:42
Don’t forget, anybody can sue you.

Brian Hemsworth 18:44
I have been asked a few times to be expert witness that’s been very interesting, as a non attorney to sort of learn that. But I am always fascinated when people get that in a surprising amount of attorneys get that at a young age. You know, when I’d say 14 is, you know, that’s pretty early to be able to kind of have your sights set. Did you know you wanted to go back to Michigan?

Rosanna Savone 19:07
Well, that was always my dream school. But interestingly enough, when I was living in Michigan, I definitely had my sights on it. But I wanted to come out to LA. And then when my parents moved me to this side, I wanted to go back there. So my mom was like, you just want to go across the country for us. We got, message received. But I mean, it was a tough experience. I mean, law school is definitely a grind. So it is hard when people think that they can watch like a few YouTube videos and think that it will, it’s suffice and they don’t need to hire me but you know, to each their own.

Brian Hemsworth 19:43
And I’m gonna say I’m not an attorney, but one of my favorite things to watch on social media are the people that tried to defend themselves and to see how quickly the judges just mow them over. I actually get a lot of enjoyment when I watch it. And it’s even better when they claim soverign citizen, like those are the ones I really like, because the judges, they just knock those things down very, very quickly.

Rosanna Savone 20:06
I know there, there actually is something to be said for someone that does this every day and sees it every day. I think that’s one of the other things that’s kind of hard is because like, with artificial intelligence coming up, and you know, on the rise here, and just the internet, I think that in many ways people feel that they can do things with just like I said, few YouTube YouTube videos, and I, you know, so there’s, like, you know, pros and cons to all the information.

Brian Hemsworth 20:38
I got an MBA years ago, and I still remember the very first day of our law sequence. And an attorney came in not a not an academic, an attorney who came in who was teaching, it was a class at night. And I still remember the very first thing he said, he said, I’m probably going to tell you the most important thing about law in the next sentence. And the rest of the semester, we’ll just learn more, but this will be never do it yourself. And always find the best person that you can find to do what you need to do with the law. Just never do it yourself. And I thought, that’s actually pretty smart. And ironically, when we went through the accounting sequence, the accountants told us the same thing, don’t do it yourself, find somebody who’s really good at it.

Rosanna Savone 21:20
No it’s because we can see the pitfalls. But here’s what’s really difficult, though, and I see this with people is that they don’t know how to judge what a good attorney is, especially with estate planning. I don’t know if you know this, but it’s the number one place where malpractice happens. I think a lot of even attorneys assume that it’s easy, breezy, it’s filling out some forms. So the industry you know, I always tell people, it’s like, because they seem to focus on price, you know, because what else are they going to ask? They don’t know how to differentiate? Yeah. But what they don’t realize is that, you know, there’s an incense and art to writing really good trust. And so we’re not like, we’re not comparing vacuum cleaners, you know, it’s not the same Dyson. That’s at Best Buy and Costco. And you could just say, How much is it? Unfortunately, a lot of these like lower end, do it yourself situations end up costing more in the end, because they don’t work because they don’t really, again, people, people don’t always know what to think of. I usually, when someone comes to me and goes, my estate’s really simple. That’s usually the clue that I’m like, it’s not going to be simple, because it’s going to be more complicated, because we probably don’t have as much assets or insurance or all the things you need to really make this work well. And when you know, so that’s the issue too, with finding the best attorney. And it doesn’t even mean here’s the other thing I hate to break it to people doesn’t necessarily mean the person that’s been doing it the longest. Yeah, because sometimes they’ve been doing it the longest badly.

Brian Hemsworth 23:05
An in our world, and especially being such advocates of business networking. I think that’s where that personal touch comes in. I think that’s when we get to know people, we get to like people, we get to trust people. And then we feel much more confident about referring. But a lot of those people, they don’t have that. And and so I think that’s a good thing for us to do. That’s why we like doing the podcast. That’s why we do videos. That’s why we put bios, not just on what one website, but on multiple websites, is to try and give people a little bit more that because they’re not experts in law. They don’t think you’re so right. They don’t know what to ask. And I’ve heard more than one attorney when I’ve asked them, Where do you typically get most of your work? So the most common answer is from referrals. Right? Good attorneys, good accountants, good wealth managers, they get referrals. But the funny ones just half funny and maybe half not funny. I’ve had several say, I get a lot of business from Legal Zoom. And I say what? And they go because that screwed up something and I have to fix it.

Rosanna Savone 24:06
No, I know. I have I have a colleague that she’s built her law firm fixing Legal Zoom. paper work. Yeah, trust because exactly that it’s you know, people don’t know exactly what they’re doing. They forget things they don’t think do things correctly, or they don’t think it through. And then they also, there’s a lot missing. You know, it’s simple. Like we live in LA, right? The shortest route isn’t always the fastest, right?

Brian Hemsworth 24:35
It’s usually not always, just ask Waze.

Rosanna Savone 24:38
Shortest trust doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be the simplest trusting it just it could end up having a lot of things that you’re going to need not in it. And I also review a lot of people’s trust site, you know, I charge a fee, and then I review it, but I do this really intensive like 50 point review and I’ve yet to meet someone that really actually knows what’s in their trust. And then once I go through it all and I point out like, well, this is why that would be important. See that? They’re they’re educated as they’re going through it. Then usually I’m redoing their trust from scratch.

Brian Hemsworth 25:16
So yeah, I want to make a left hand turn, okay, in our discussion. So you can hang on if you want to, because I’m not going to talk a lot, at least not in the same way for a few minutes.

Rosanna Savone 25:28
That’s fine. I have other hobbies? You sure do.

Brian Hemsworth 25:33
And I found this fascinating. And I may pronounce this incorrectly. But Giacomos Daughter,

Rosanna Savone 25:41
Giacomos Daughter,

Brian Hemsworth 25:42
Giacomo. Giacomos Daughter. And that’s a novel that you wrote.

Rosanna Savone 25:46
Yes.

Brian Hemsworth 25:47
That is so cool. Can you tell me like how did that happen?

Rosanna Savone 25:53
Well, I’ve always had a love of literature, and I was a big book reader. And, of course, like, you know, starting my career working in the entertainment business, you know, I was always writing to. So Giacomo Daughter actually started as a script that I wrote, and I wasn’t able to sell it. I kept getting things like, it’s a period piece. It’s expensive. Like, whatever. There’s lots of parody period pieces on TV, but whatever. Okay. So I ended up developing it into a novel, because I just love the story so much. And it was partly inspired by a dream I had. And I also was a volunteer prosecutor, at the LA City Attorney’s Office for about six months.

Brian Hemsworth 26:44
Oh, wow.

Rosanna Savone 26:45
So I just saw these domestic violence cases coming in. And I would listen to these like, just heart wrenching 911 tapes of you know, domestic violence happening. And then, you know, we would try to go to trial, usually people would plea out, but they would walk in hand in hand this couple. So it’s like, the really hard cases to prosecute. So I was really interested on what the dynamic was. And I’m just a very big research based person. So I just started diving into it. And I’ve learned a lot. So in that story, you know, Giacomos Daughter there’s a it’s it’s definitely not a light read. It’s definitely a mob story that takes place in the 1920s. And she’s mixed up with an abusive

Brian Hemsworth 27:37
so that is partly what caught my interest. And I’m, I’m gonna have to read this now.

Rosanna Savone 27:42
Did you notice how I still managed to tie in law with it though.

Brian Hemsworth 27:46
you actually did that really well.

I tried so hard not to. It’s just everywhere. The I’m going to read just one quick review. And this was from Goodreads I loved this book kept me on the edge of my seat, and I couldn’t put it down. Can’t wait for the next book to see what becomes of Sofia.

Rosanna Savone 28:09
I know I have the second book halfway written. I ended up having some health issues that I had to focus on, because it was just too much to focus on taking care of myself, because I actually would normally wake up at like 435 in the morning, and I get my writing done from five to 7am before I work, and so, so I haven’t been writing as much. But I want to finish that. It’s a trilogy. And I already have it outlined. So it’s halfway the second so

Brian Hemsworth 28:44
when a motion picture studios behind it, and they’re throwing gobs of money, it’s it’s kind of easier to drop everything and right, yeah, that helps. But what I what I really noticed in this in reading reviews on Amazon, and on Goodreads, and Amazon tends to be regular people, they look for a book, they buy a book, Goodreads is a little bit more. The enthusiast the people that read a lot. And each one can sometimes be tougher. It’s got to make you feel good when you’ve got a lot of people giving you five stars that are giving you a review for a first novel for people to say they love it. It’s an awful lot of people that have a hard time even getting a first novel published, let alone having a lot of people saying they really loved it. And a common theme. I didn’t write them all down so I won’t try to quote them all. But a common theme was that you wrote about mob and family life and the issues that happened in that story. A lot of people say in a way I’d never seen before I’d never heard before. It was very different. It was a different point of view. How did you how did you get a different point of view? I mean, we all grow up with tons of mob stories around. How did you make yours different?

Rosanna Savone 30:00
Well, being a woman and being, you know, I’m 100% Italian and the Godfather is my favorite movie, I love Goodfellas I can go on and on The Sopranos is amazing. Maybe The Sopranos was had the most female perspective out of the mall. But it still wasn’t, you know, wasn’t Carmela story, you know, it wasn’t. So I just had that curiosity of what it would be like to be married to one of these guys. And I didn’t want to glamorize it, because I don’t think there’s anything glamorous about the mob. I think that they’re sociopathic people who quite frankly, have cost us all money, because they have they, in an organized way, have increased the cost of everything that we buy and own. And so I didn’t want to do that. I didn’t want to glamorize it, I wanted it to be really grounded. And I wanted it to be what a real relationship would be with someone like this. And I put it in the 1920s. Well, to just kind of highlight some of the issues, which quite frankly, really haven’t changed all that much for women since but to make it a little more crystal clear. And then also kind of tied into the dream because in my dream, it was back then. And it was this woman who was you know, singing on stage, and she caught the eyes, essentially the wrong guy. And, and how it ends up, you know, making her life unravel.

Brian Hemsworth 31:41
Wow,

Rosanna Savone 31:41
yeah, no, I love I love writing. I love storytelling. I love working with creative people. It’s a lot of fun. I gotta get back to that second book.

Brian Hemsworth 31:53
So I’m, even before reading it myself. I am fascinated by having read the reviews. And so I want to read it. So I want to make a pitch to anybody listening that I think this is going to be a book worth looking at. And I want to say it correctly. Giacomos Daughter.

Rosanna Savone 32:11
Giacomos Daughter.

Brian Hemsworth 32:13
And just very quickly, I see your name as the author. And I also see somebody whose name is Diana.

Rosanna Savone 32:19
Yeah, that’s my sister.

Brian Hemsworth 32:20
So you read with your sister.

Rosanna Savone 32:22
Yeah, I wrote the script. The actual story is based on my script that I wrote on my own, but she came in and helped me write the book, like rewrote it as a project together.

Brian Hemsworth 32:32
Oh, fun.

Rosanna Savone 32:33
Yeah,.

Brian Hemsworth 32:33
That had to have been fun. Yeah. I mean, were there challenging times to that?

Rosanna Savone 32:39
Actually wasn’t challenging in the writing. It was actually more afterwards. Like she wanted to do other things. So it was a bit of a bummer for me that she wanted to take. But she’s, you know, she’s acting and directing. And she’s doing her thing. And I fully, she’s very talented.

Brian Hemsworth 32:55
Did I see that she did some time with Second City.

Rosanna Savone 32:59
She did.

Brian Hemsworth 33:00
That’s very impressive to me. Anybody that can go through any of that kind of training. That usually means they’re pretty good.

Rosanna Savone 33:08
Yeah no, she’s extremely talented. And she’s got a lot of great ideas. She has a short film right now. And it was just in the Pasadena Film Festival. She is gonna kill me but the name of escaping me at this moment. But it’s really good.

Brian Hemsworth 33:31
You send it to us, and we’ll put it in the description of the podcast.

Like she’s gonna kill me right now.

Rosanna Savone 33:37
But it’s really great. It really is. It’s really well written. She’s very talented, Rosanna

Brian Hemsworth 33:43
Rosanna before we go, I want to make sure that people have a way of getting in touch with you what’s the best way for people to get in touch with you?

Rosanna Savone 33:51
The best way to for people to get in touch with me would be through my website at you know, Savonelaw.com Or they could call my office at 310-363-0446. I offer a free 15 minute consultation so I can get a feel and you know, just because I do things differently. I have to let people know this is gonna be a different process than what you’re used to. And if if it doesn’t jive with you, you know, I wish you well but I have a particular way of doing things that for me works in a very proactive, holistic way.

Brian Hemsworth 34:29
Let’s do the website one more time because I want people to know that your last name has an E on the end so it does so if we spell out the website it would be s

Rosanna Savone 34:38
S a v isn’t victory o n elaw.com.

Brian Hemsworth 34:42
Very good. Well presented thank you so much for coming in. This has been a lot of fun I can’t wait to read the book. Can’t wait now already for the for the sequel to come out and then to finish finish the trilogy so that when you are getting that Best Screenplay Oscar or I can say that I met you when. So thanks for coming in. Appreciate you.

Rosanna Savone 35:04
Thank you. I really enjoyed being here. Thank you for having me.

Announcer 35:18
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